Episodes

Thursday Jun 23, 2022
Calgary pastor Tim Stephens was arrested for standing up for his congregation
Thursday Jun 23, 2022
Thursday Jun 23, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Tim Stephens have a conversation about some of his story growing up and how he came to be a Pastor, the division between the government and religion, and how we can navigate the difficult situations in our lives.
Tim Stephens is the pastor of Fairview Baptist Church. He started his ministry in January 2014. Tim grew up on a farm in Eastern Ontario and graduated with a Computer Engineering degree from Queen’s University and a Masters of Divinity degree from Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary. He is happily married to Raquel and they have eight children. Prior to serving at Fairview, Tim served as an assistant pastor at Emmanuel Baptist Church in Windsor, Ontario. Calgary pastor of Fairview Baptist Church Tim Stephens was arrested over accusations of violating public COVID-19 health restrictions. Officers arrested Stephens in late May for failing to comply with a court order. Canadian Pastor Tim Stephens was released from the Calgary Remand Centre on Thursday July 1, 2021, and reunited with his family after spending 17 nights in jail for holding worship services that disobeyed COVID-19 public health orders. Stephens was released on the day the government removed COVID-related restrictions throughout the area.
Stephens and Grey share their thoughts about the role of religion in our culture, how hard it was for Tim to face the choice of renouncing his beliefs to comply with the demands of the politicians playing doctor, and what we can do to create a change in the way our society cooperates.
To find more from Tim Stephens you can visit: http://www.fairviewbaptistchurch.ca/preacher/tim-stephens/
This episode’s recommended reading:
Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis
https://amzn.to/3mN6e7k
Leaving God Behind - Michael Wagner
https://merchantship.ca/collections/books/products/leaving-god-behind
The Mission of God: A Manifesto of Hope for Society - Joseph Boot
https://amzn.to/3u0I9ht
Fault Lines - Voddie T. Baucham Jr.
https://amzn.to/3OiZvOc
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Monday Jun 20, 2022
Woke ideologies that are creating systemic racism in the workplace
Monday Jun 20, 2022
Monday Jun 20, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Brian Giesbrecht have a conversation about the systemic racism problem, how woke ideologies are creating more problems than good, and what we can do about it.
Brian Dale Giesbrecht received his education at United College and The University of Manitoba, where he obtained his LLB in 1972. He worked with Walsh, Micay and Co., and then joined Legal Aid Manitoba in 1975 to become Senior Attorney and the first Area Director for western Manitoba in Brandon. Appointed to The Provincial Court (Family Division) in 1976, Brian heard child welfare cases and general family matters until he transferred to the Criminal Division in 1989. During his career he served on the National Family Court Committee, and various provincial court committees. Brian was an Associate Chief Judge from 1991 to 2005, and he became Acting Chief Judge in 1993. Among the notable cases he heard was the Lester Desjarlais Inquiry. His report strongly criticized the government’s decision to devolve child welfare responsibilities to racially based child-care agencies.
Grey and Giesbrecht take a deep dive into the world of woke ideologies and their impact in the workplace, the negative effects that forced diversity is having while creating systemic racism, and what we could be doing collectively to help create prosperity for everyone.
To find more from Brian Giesbrecht you can visit: https://fcpp.org/authors/brian-giesbrecht/
This episode’s recommended reading:
There Is No Difference - Peter Best
https://amzn.to/3xRfFZH
The War on the West - Douglas Murray
https://amzn.to/3OkwSAh
First Nations? Second Thoughts - Tom Flanagan
https://amzn.to/3aT8yqB
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Thursday Jun 16, 2022
Danielle Smith is aiming at becoming Alberta’s next Premier
Thursday Jun 16, 2022
Thursday Jun 16, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Alberta Premier Candidate Danielle Smith have a conversation about her time spent in High River operating The Railcar diner & restaurant, her experience in the media, and her plans for her premiership.
Danielle Smith is a Canadian politician & journalist. Smith served as leader of the Wildrose Party from October 2009 to December 17, 2014 when she resigned to cross the floor and join the governing Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta caucus. Danielle is a proud Albertan. She is a University of Calgary graduate with degrees in Economics and English, Danielle has had a lifelong interest in Alberta public policy and finding the right balance between free enterprise and individual freedom, and the role of government. She was a Member of the Legislative Assembly for Highwood, leader of the Official Opposition, and leader of the Wildrose Party.
In this episode Smith & Grey have a conversation about grassroots politics and building meaningful relationships, how important it is to stay grounded as a politician, and what she's aiming at improving for the beautiful province of Alberta.
To find more from Danielle Smith you can visit: https://www.daniellesmith.ca/
This episode’s recommended reading:
Winning Power - Tom Flanagan
https://amzn.to/3mGtqnA
Do Something!: 365 Ways You Can Strengthen Canada - Preston Manning
https://amzn.to/3tyPF2A
Win Bigly: Persuasion in a World Where Facts Don't Matter - Scott Adams
https://amzn.to/3N08GSo
Mattias Desmet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLDpZ8daIVM
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Monday Jun 13, 2022
Monday Jun 13, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Kenneth Drysdale have a conversation about his experience as an engineer and inventor in the arctic, how curiosity drove him to compile a damming report on the government's actions related to the COVID pandemic, and what the public can do to better understand the situation we're now facing post pandemic.
Ken R. Drysdale is an executive engineer with over 40 years of experience as a Professional Engineer, which includes 29 years experience in the development and management of national and regional engineering businesses. After having established Accutech as a leader in the development of Arctic projects, in 2015 he successfully negotiated the sale of Accutech Engineering Inc., to a group of investors. Accutech remains the most recognized name in Arctic development in Canada, and annually
completes the design for some $50 M dollars of construction in Canada’s
Arctic.
In this episode Ken & Leighton take a deep dive into the misrepresentation of the early data released by Statistics Canada, how he came to find himself deep in the thick of the cancel culture phenomenon form simply sharing the damning report, and how he hopes the general public will use the report to hold the government accountable in the coming years.
To read the report from Kenneth Drysdale you can visit: https://www.greymatterpodcast.ca/kensreport
This episode’s recommended reading:
Nineteen Eighty Four - George Orwell
https://amzn.to/3asIS3Y
The Truth and Beauty - Andrew Klavan
https://amzn.to/3Grlj7w
Bonhoeffer - Eric Metaxas
https://amzn.to/3lWqPFy
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Thursday Jun 09, 2022
Listen to this before you consider getting a divorce
Thursday Jun 09, 2022
Thursday Jun 09, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Lawren Wowk have a conversation about the difficulties surrounding family law, the work that goes into making sure families are safe during a divorce, and what you can do to avoid having to go there in the first place.
Lawren grew up in Maple Ridge, BC playing hockey and baseball allowing him the opportunity to travel playing in Provincial Championships and the BC Best Ever Program. Following graduation, Lawren attended the St. Francis Xavier University in Antigonish, NS and obtained his Bachelor of Science in Physical Education. During his studies, Lawren maintained a scholarship while continuing his passion to play hockey. In 1997, Lawren convocated from St. FXU and moved to St. Paul, AB to begin a teaching career and coaching hockey. Lawren’s paternal roots are in farming and ranching in North-eastern Alberta which allowed the experience of travelling throughout Canada and the USA dealing within the horse and cattle industry.
In this episode Lawren & Leighton discuss the life and times of a younger Wowk, how he came to find himself in Family Law, and some of Lawren's best suggestions for how to avoid ending up in divorce court in the first place. To find more from Lawren Wowk you can visit: www.GWSLLP.ca/lawren-wowk
This episode’s recommended reading:
Speechless: Controlling Words, Controlling Minds - Michael Knowles
https://amzn.to/3xCKn8T
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Tuesday Jun 07, 2022
Tuesday Jun 07, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Peter Sacco have a conversation about his background in psychology, how his upbringing shaped his journey to become a documentary producer, and his pursuit of the truth.
Peter is the author of 30 plus books—fiction and non-fiction and published on 4 continents. Some of these works include The Lost Fountain, Touched by Grace, and Niagara’s Most Haunted. Peter is an award-winning executive producer, he has hosted many documentaries on relationships, psychological issues and children’s issues. He is a regularly featured guest on television and radio, and is the host of the highly popular weekly radio show, Matters of the Mind, and host of the hit TV series The Paranormal Profilers. Sacco appears regularly on television and radio talk shows both in the United States and Canada. He has been the assistant producer and host of documentaries on relationships, psychological issues and child issues.
Grey and Sacco take a deep dive into culture differences and how they shape our society, the psychology of abuse victims and how the events of the last couple years have reflected those patterns, and the inspiration behind the Lockstep documentary and how it came to life.
To find more from Peter Sacco you can visit: www.PeterAndrewSacco.com
This episode’s recommended reading:
The Authoritarian Moment - Ben Shapiro
https://amzn.to/3GeyEzO
Right Now Enough is Enough! - Peter Sacco
https://amzn.to/39URDUd
Discovering the Power of Positive Thinking - Norman Vincent Peale
https://amzn.to/3amNngr
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Thursday Jun 02, 2022
What would happen if Alberta separated from Canada?
Thursday Jun 02, 2022
Thursday Jun 02, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Michael Wagner have a conversation about how he found his interest in political sciences, the role Alberta has played in building the foundation of Canada, and why the country always seems so divided.
Michael Wagner is an independent researcher and writer, and a columnist for the Western Standard. He has a BA and MA in political science from the University of Calgary and PhD in political science from the University of Alberta.
The conversation between Grey and Wagner starts off with a look at Canada's history and how Alberta played a big role in supporting economic growth, where it all started going wrong for Alberta, and what the future of our country looks like from the perspective of independence. To find more from Michael Wagner you can visit: www.MichaelGWagner.net
This episode’s recommended reading:
No Other Option: Self-Determination for Alberta - Michael Wagner
https://amzn.to/3GGOzaq
Alberta: Separatism Then and Now - Michael Wagner
https://amzn.to/38LvPds
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Monday May 30, 2022
Bernie Robitaille opens up the world of investing into Precious Metals
Monday May 30, 2022
Monday May 30, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Bernie Robitaille have a conversation about the state of our economic systems, options for protecting your wealth, and the introduction of Central Bank Digital Currency.
Bernie Robitaille is the Managing Partner of Worldwide Precious Metals Ltd. (WWPMC), founded in 2002. They are a wholesaler of Gold, Silver, Palladium and Platinum bullion to individual and corporate investors, as a strategy to growing and preserving wealth. Bernie served in The Canadian Forces for five years including a tour with NATO. Later he was a construction supervisor, 1984 to 1987.
Bernie entered the Dry-Cleaning industry in 1987 and although retired after a 30 year career, is the past founder and owner of The Press Gallery in Edmonton. Along with opening an Edmonton office, WWPMC will also be opening a local vault to offer quick delivery of these physical hard assets to our Alberta customers. WWPMC is the largest private holder of physical bullion in Canada on behalf of customers.
This podcast is for general informational purposes only. Nothing on this podcast should be taken as investment advice. Guests on this show are not compensated for their appearance. Listeners are urged to educate themselves and make their own decisions. In this episode Bernie and Leighton take a deep dive into the world of precious metals and how others are protecting and building wealth, what you can do to start learning more about precious metals and their role in your investment portfolio, and how digital currencies are affecting the way we conduct business worldwide.
To find more from Bernie Robitaille you can visit: www.WWPMC.com
This episode’s recommended reading:
The Richest Man in Babylon Paperback - George S. Clason
https://amzn.to/3NqReXV
The New Case for Gold Hardcover - James Rickards
https://amzn.to/39GpgsP
What Is A Wealth Cycle? The Difference Between Price & Value Explained by Mike Maloney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-knwwD-PZc
Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order by Ray Dalio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xguam0TKMw8
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Friday May 27, 2022
Friday May 27, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Dr. Roger Hodkinson have a conversation about why it's so important to ignore the saying "trust the science", the government's mismanagement of information, and how the media has run amuck.
Dr. Hodkinson is the CEO and Medical Director of MedMalDoctors. He received his general medical degrees from Cambridge University in the UK where he was a scholar at Corpus Christi College. Following a residency at the University of British Columbia Dr. Hodkinson became a Royal College certified general pathologist and also a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists.
In this episode Hodkinson and Grey explore the doctors role in pathology, how we've handled situations like COVID 19 in the past, and the dangers of falling prey to the idiom "trust the science".
To find more from Dr. Roger Hodkinson you can visit: www.TBOF.ca
This episode’s recommended reading:
The Second World War - Winston Churchill
https://amzn.to/3PLu4O2
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Monday May 23, 2022
Controversial Calgary Preacher Artur Pawlowski Arrested (Multiple Times)
Monday May 23, 2022
Monday May 23, 2022
In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Artur Pawlowski have a conversation about the path that lead him to his humanitarian cause, how he has been met with corruption and discouragement at every turn, and why he continues to fight the powers that be to accomplish his goals.
Artur Pawlowski, born March 28, 1973, is a Polish-Canadian Protestant street preacher and political activist. He is pastor of the Cave of Adullam congregation in Calgary and previously led the Kings Glory Fellowship. In 2005, Pawlowski, along with other street evangelists, used the PA system of a truck to deliver sermons around downtown. Pawlowski became the founder and pastor of Street Church Ministries, where he engages in open-air preaching and Christian street outreach. He was also the pastor of Kings Glory Fellowship. Through the Street Church Pawlowski feeds and clothes the homeless. Artur Pawlowski has been an active advocate against the questionable government mandates while protesting for fellow Canadians rights and freedoms. Pawlowski has been in trouble with police throughout the pandemic, at times being arrested within days of his release on other charges.
In this episode of the Grey Matter Podcast Leighton and Artur take some time to explore his past, how he cam to be an active street preacher, and why he continues to actively fight for human rights and freedoms in the wake of the current political climate.
To find more from Artur Pawlowski you can visit: https://www.streetchurch.ca/
This episode’s recommended reading:
Live Not by Lies: A Manual for Christian Dissidents - Rod Dreher
https://amzn.to/3GbVp7y
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