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Author & Broadcaster Andrew Lawton shares his thoughts on the Freedom Convoy

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Andrew Lawton have a conversation about the events that transpired during the Freedom Convoy protests in Ottawa Canada, how Andrew invested his time in researching the details of how it was handled by the government, and how important it is to have an inquiry to establish a level of accountability to the politicians who were involved in the debacle.
Andrew Lawton is a bestselling author, journalist and broadcaster. He hosts the Andrew Lawton Show at True North and is the author of the #1 Globe and Mail bestseller The Freedom Convoy: The Inside Story of Three Weeks that Shook the World. Mr. Lawton previously hosted a daily show on 980 CFPL in London and hosted on 770 CHQR in Calgary and on 640 Toronto. He was previously a national columnist for Global News and his written work has been published across the world, including in the Washington Post, the National Post, the Toronto Sun, the Edmonton Sun, and Global News. Andrew has appeared as a commentator on CBC, CTV, TVO, CTS, and on BBC World.
Currently, Andrew is a fellow at True North and publishes the creatively titled “Andrew Lawton” newsletter at Substack. As host of a highly rated daily talk radio show for five years, Andrew showcased his wit, irreverence, and commitment to in-depth conversations on the issues.
Andrew's written work has been published across the world, including in the Washington Post, the National Post, the Toronto Sun, the Edmonton Sun, and Global News. Andrew has appeared as a commentator on CBC, CTV, TVO, CTS, and on BBC World. You might be surprised to learn that Andrew ran as a Progressive Conservative candidate in Ontario’s 2018 provincial election. The Andrew Lawton Show is Canada’s most irreverent talk show, hosted by veteran broadcaster Andrew Lawton. With hard-hitting analysis and in-depth interviews, Lawton takes on the stories that matter. True North is a Canadian digital media platform with a conservative editorial position. Through our journalism, we seek to provide Canadians with fair, accurate, truthful and fact-based news reports, analysis, investigative reports, podcasts, interviews and documentaries.
Andrew and Leighton explore all the ins and outs of how the Freedom Convoy was handled in the media, how quickly the narrative shifted from hiding to vilifying the people involved, and what the ramifications of that were for the Government of Canada.
To find more from Andrew Lawton you can visit: www.andrewlawton.ca
This episode’s recommended reading:
The Freedom Convoy - Andrew Lawton
https://amzn.to/3QxyvLp
The Parasitic Mind - Gad Saad
https://amzn.to/3B2DwWz
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The World Economic Forum has been manipulating the Canadian Government

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Bob Blayone have a conversation about how the World Economic Forum has been influencing Canadian Politics, how our political parties are conspiring to further a nefarious agenda, and his role in the Alberta Independence Party.
Bob Blayone is an Alberta advocate who believes in freedom and prosperity for all, and is a man who puts the well-being and success of all Albertans first. Bob is a proud Albertan of diverse ancestry. Part Metis with his fourth Great Grandfather being Chief Black Powder, a strong leader of his time. Someone who also opposed the tyranny of men. Mr. Blayone comes from humble beginnings and was taught the value of hard work and self determination. Of those values he holds in high esteem the responsibility for his own destiny. Through opportunity provided to him by the wonderful province of Alberta, and through hard work and commitment - prosperity was found.
Bob Blayone has a passion to see stolen opportunities returned to the people of Alberta, so that future generations may also reap the rewards of hard work and determination and he is on a mission to make it so. Among many of Bob's goals is to see Albertans standing in unity, while creating a political movement of the people, and working to restore Albertan's rights, freedoms, and opportunities. Freedom through Independence. Bob believes that the Alberta Unity Project is the pathway to reaching those goals. The objective of The Independence Party is to provide effective government that reduces Alberta’s dependence upon Canada’s federal government as it works towards establishing an independent Alberta nation. Upon forming government, The Independence Party will name a date for a referendum on independence within the first year.
Blayone & Grey open up the discussion by exploring the role the WEF has had in world politics in the past couple decades, how that has affected the Canadian people as a whole, and what the people of Alberta can be doing to maintain their rights and freedoms during these uncertain times.
To find more from Bob Blayone you can visit: https://www.abindependence.com/
This episode’s recommended reading:
Ship of Fools - Tucker Carlson
https://amzn.to/3erKxc4
The Art of Conversation - Catherine Blyth
https://amzn.to/3wXaR3W
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Posties For Freedom member Ryan Orydzuk fired for saying no

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Ryan Orydzuk have a conversation about how he came to be involved with the Posties For Freedom organization, the importance of the three basic rules of work refusal and their role in supporting a healthy workplace in Canada, and the nature of the legality of the mandates imposed by the Canadian Government.
Ryan Orydzuk regards himself as nothing more than an exiled federal safety officer, with close to a decade of various safety education and experience regarding the Canada Labour Code and occupational health and safety to guide him. Over the past decade or so Ryan has been involved in the federal safety system which has given him first hand experience in understanding how federal organizations and crown corporations take new safety protocols from "conceptual planning" to "final implementation".
Mr. Orydzuk boasts a wealth of knowledge when it comes to legislated safety acts and regulations that govern our federal employers, their workplace safety committees, and the front-line employees in relation to occupational health and safety. His experience with his employer and a loss of work has led him to join the organization “Posties for Freedom”. Posties for Freedom is a community of loving and dedicated employees coming together to support one another. They are working to bring justice to those who have been disaffected by Government Mandates.
Ryan & Leighton have an in depth conversation about the role the employer has played in the mandate roll out, how that’s affected the employees and what the outcome has been, and what we can do to reconcile the damage that has been inflicted on our society.
To find more from Ryan Orydzuk you can visit: www.PostiesForFreedom.ca
This episode’s recommended reading:
Science, Technology, and Government - Murray N. Rothbard
https://amzn.to/3CLtLyM
Canada Labour Code
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/L-2/
1984 - George Orwell
https://amzn.to/3asIS3Y
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How is the Climate Change agenda effecting the Canadian energy sector?

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and David Leis have a conversation about some of David’s roles in the work he has done in the past, the work that the Frontier Center for Public Policy is doing to make positive change in Canadian Government, while also addressing some of the nations concerns when it comes to the Canadian Health Care system.
As one of the VPs of Frontier Center for Public Policy, David Leis is uniquely positioned to comment on the evolving situation of national politics in Canada, the influence of the World Economic Forum and tangible things Canadians can do to support the integrity of our democracy. The Frontier Center is a think tank that rejects government funding and encourages exploring sensitive issues. They consist of publicly funded research groups that dive deeper into the policies the Canadian government enacts.
David is a longtime supporter of the Center's mission. He is passionate in his role about inviting and engaging a strong national community in support of the mission of the Frontier. He believes strongly in the importance of good Public Policy for the benefit of the lives of all Canadians. Leis has served in a variety of senior leadership roles within industry, government, First Nations and education. David studied at Waterloo, Ryerson, Toronto and undertook his Masters in Public Policy at Queen's University.
Leis was most recently Director of Communications and Donor Relations at Mennonite Central Committee Canada. He has extensive experience in leading fundraising and development within higher education, the nonprofit sector, and the business world. He also has experience in the realm of municipal politics, having served as a councilor in the Region of Waterloo and mayor in the Township of Woolwich. At Canadian Mennonite University, Leis was Vice-President Advancement, successfully raising over $7 million for a business school endowment fund. During his time at Red River, he served as Vice-President of Business Development and was involved in the establishment of an endowment fund for a chair in Construction Management. He raised over $9 million in various projects at Red River College.
Leis & Grey explore the issues our healthcare system faces when it comes to the influence of misleading narratives, the role of parents in raising healthy children, the unspoken war on the energy sector, and how the Frontier Center for Public Policy is working to make changes to the Canadian Government System.
To find more from David Leis you can visit: https://fcpp.org/authors/david-leis/ or https://www.youtube.com/user/FrontierCentre
This episode’s recommended reading:
The Diversity Delusion - Heather Mac Donald
https://amzn.to/3QYjYJc
In Praise of Dangerous Universities - Mark Mercer
https://amzn.to/3CRneSV
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Retired fighter pilot Anthony Ledsham uncovered some unexpected pension controversy

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Retired Fighter Pilot Anthony Ledsham have a conversation about the journey he’s taken to become a Royal Canadian Air Force pilot, some of the turmoil he’s faced during the length of his career, and how he stumbled into some controversy surrounding his pension.
Anthony Ledsham is a former military officer who served for 20 years as a RCAF fighter pilot. He has since retired from the Air Force and has since been flying commercial for Air Canada. Ledsham stumbled into some high level corruption in an organization he was a member of. After the events that transpired he decided to take legal action and is representing himself in a lawsuit that claims fraudulent misrepresentation.
Four Wing Cold Lake is the busiest fighter base in Canada. It provides general purpose, multi-role, combat capable forces in support of domestic and international roles of Canada's Air Force. 4 Wing Cold Lake is, without question, the home of the fighter pilot. It not only hosts Canada's world-class tactical fighter force training, but also deploys and supports fighter aircraft at a moments notice to fulfill the domestic and international roles of Canada's Air Force.
The conversation between Grey and Ledsham starts off seemingly innocuous but quickly falls down an unexpected rabbit hole. The cover some of the history of the Royal Canadian Air Force, what the scoop is with the controversy he stumbled upon, and how he’s working to uncover the truth.
This episode’s recommended reading:
Fall of an Arrow - Murray Peden
https://amzn.to/3ShDEcG
Mozart's Brain and the Fighter Pilot - Richard Restak M.D.
https://amzn.to/3vyhBoi
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Brian Jean is passionate about fixing our health care system

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Brian Jean have a conversation about some of his campaign promises and how he intends to fulfill them, where the Alberta Sovereignty Act plays a role in achieving those goals, and how we can get involved in the process of improving Alberta's health care system.
Brian Jean is a Canadian politician who has served as the member of the Legislative Assembly for Fort McMurray-Lac La Biche since March 16, 2022. He was leader of the Opposition and the last leader of the Wildrose Party from 2015 to 2017 before its merger into the United Conservative Party. Jean was a member of Parliament with the Conservative Party from 2004 to 2014 before entering provincial politics. Brian Jean is also a father, a grandfather, and a husband. He is a proud Albertan and a huge defender of our energy industry. He has lived in Alberta almost his entire life, moving here from BC as a small child. The youngest of eleven, Brian grew up doing the sorts of things that boys do in rural Alberta and he became an accomplished outdoorsman, hunter, and athlete.
Jean worked as a lawyer in Fort McMurray for 11 years before he was elected to Parliament, where he represented Athabasca from 2004 to 2006 and Fort McMurray Athabasca from 2006 to 2014, when he resigned from the House of Commons. He returned to political life in February 2015 when he announced that he would seek the leadership of the Wildrose Party. He was elected party leader on March 28, 2015. Jean has a Bachelor of Science degree from Warner Pacific College in Portland, Oregon, and Master of Business Administration and Bachelor of Laws degrees from Bond University in Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. He also attended the law school at the University of Calgary, where he received qualification to be admitted to the Law Society of Alberta. This allowed him to practice law for 11 years in Fort McMurray prior to his political career.
Brian is a UCP party leader candidate in the upcoming elections and had a lot to say about how he intends on improving the Alberta Government. He shares his ideas on climate change policy and how that’s affected our economy, what the main issues facing Albertans are and what his plan is to help create positive outcomes for all Canadians, and how his leadership will make changes to our systems to improve our Healthcare System.
To find more from Brian Jean you can visit: www.BrianJean.ca
This episode’s recommended reading:
Moment of Truth - Jack M. Mintz
https://amzn.to/3pEx7Mh
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Allison Pejovic explains her role in the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Allison Pejovic have a conversation about some of the cases she is working on and how she hopes they turn out, her role in the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms and the impact they are having, .
Allison graduated from law school at the University of Ottawa in 2003 and was Called to the Bar of Manitoba in 2004. She articled and practiced in the litigation department of a large full-service law firm in Winnipeg for 5 years. In 2008, Allison moved to Toronto to pursue a Masters’ degree in Environmental Law and Policy from the University of Toronto. Allison wrote her Masters’ thesis: “Freshwater, Law, and Game Theory: Strategies for Navigating the Troubled Waters of a Canada / U.S. Bulk Water Export Conflict” and it was published in the peer-reviewed Queen’s Law Journal in 2010. After completing her Masters’ degree, Allison was called to the Bar of Ontario in 2009 and spent a year at a leading national law firm in Toronto.
After some time in Toronto Allison returned to Winnipeg in 2011, and spent the next nine years as a Crown counsel arguing Charter motions and other constitutional legal issues before every level of court in Manitoba, and the Canada Labor Board. Allison joined the Justice Centre in 2020, and is excited to advocate for justice and the protection of personal rights and freedoms.
Founded in 2010 as a voice for freedom in Canada's courtrooms, the mission of the Justice Centre is to defend the constitutional freedoms of Canadians through litigation and education. We fight for Canada to become and remain a free society, where the equality of all Canadians and their individual freedoms are celebrated and respected. As a public interest, non-partisan law firm and registered charity, the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms provides legal representation free of charge, to protect the rights and freedoms of all Canadians, which are guaranteed under our constitution. Since their founding in 2010, they have been involved in more than 84 legal files with a small but dedicated legal staff.
Allison shares her motivations for becoming a part of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, how she plans to continue her work with them, and some of the things she plans to do to ensure a promising future for generations to come.
To find more from Allison Pejovic you can visit: www.JCCF.ca
This episode’s recommended reading:
The Origins Of Totalitarianism - Hannah Arendt
https://amzn.to/3up3CAL
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What’s with all the Crypto hype? Max Freeman explains...

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Max Freeman have a conversation about all the hype surrounding Crypto Currency, all of the possible opportunities and challenges that are present with a new monetary system, and why it's important to continue the evolution of how we exchange goods and services.
Max is a Stanford alumni, an author, a finance and crypto/blockchain expert, and a podcaster. He's had the privilege of interviewing such notables as Saifedean Ammous, Robert Breedlove, and Mark Cuban. In September 2019 the founders at Epic Cash looked at the technologies in place for cryptocurrency transactions and saw the opportunity to enhance the “Future of Money” evolution. EPIC claims to provide a fully secure, decentralized platform, entirely controlled by the end-users for payment transactions.
The EPIC CASH project has taken a little more than two years of preparation to finally introduce this privacy blockchain to the world. Mr. Freeman started EPIC in his Stanford dorm room. That company now runs on its own with over 200 employees in 70 countries. Cryptocurrencies in general, and Bitcoin (BTC) in particular, have proven to be massively successful when it comes to maintaining a store of value. Despite all the volatility in the dollar price, the overall trajectory has been quite clear. We expect this trend will continue as more people recognize the inflationary threat inherent in fiat currencies.
Mr. Freeman shares some insights from the front lines of the Crypto wave. He has endeavored to create a financial environment that takes the best of anonymity while also maintaining security through the practical use of cryptocurrency. During the conversation Grey & Freeman explore how all this fits into our ever changing society.
To find more from Max Freeman you can visit: www.epic.tech
This episode’s recommended reading:
Cryptocurrency - Gavin S. Finney
https://amzn.to/3OTCdyh
Letters of Marque - Marque dePlume
https://amzn.to/3BvLSbg
The End of Freedom - John Thore Stub Sneisen
https://amzn.to/3d74Gn3
Behind the Curtain - John Hamer
https://amzn.to/3PWOYcC
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Maxime Bernier explores the future of Canadian Leadership

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Maxime Bernier have a conversation about the inherent corruption that exists in our current political system, how he intends to make a difference in Canadian politics, and the role current policy plays in our economy.
Maxime Bernier is a Canadian politician who is the founder and leader of the People's Party of Canada. Bernier was formerly a member of the Conservative Party and left the caucus in 2018 to form the PPC. He was the member of Parliament for Beauce from 2006 to 2019 and served as a Cabinet minister in the Harper government. Prior to entering politics, Bernier worked in law, finance and banking. He was first elected to the House of Commons as a Conservative in the 2006 election in the same riding his father, Gilles Bernier, had represented from 1984 to 1997.
Bernier held a number of portfolios in Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Cabinet. Bernier ran for the Conservative Party leadership in the 2017 leadership election. After leading eventual winner Andrew Scheer through 12 rounds of voting, he came second with over 49 per cent in the 13th round. Fifteen months later, in August 2018, Bernier resigned from the Conservative Party to create his own party, the right-wing populist People's Party, citing disagreements with Scheer's leadership. Bernier was born in Saint-Georges, Quebec, the son of Doris (Rodrigue) and Gilles Bernier, a well known radio host, who represented the riding of Beauce from 1984 to 1997, first as a Progressive Conservative and then as an independent.
For 19 years, Bernier held positions in law, several financial and banking fields, such as working as a lawyer at McCarthy Tétrault, rising up to become branch manager at the National Bank, the office of the Securities Commission of Québec as Director of Corporate and International Relations, an adviser (handling fiscal reform) from 1996 to 1998 in the office of Bernard Landry, and Standard Life of Canada as the Vice-President of Corporate Affairs and Communication. On August 23, 2018, Bernier announced that he was leaving the Conservative Party with the intention of founding a new political party.
He held a press conference at which he declared that the Conservative Party was "too intellectually and morally corrupt to be reformed", and was afraid to address important issues or articulate a coherent philosophy. Bernier is strongly critical of public health measures undertaken, having traveled to anti-lockdown protests throughout the country in 2021. On April 17, he spoke to several hundred people in Barrie, Ontario, despite being discouraged from doing so by the mayor and the area's city councilor.
Bernier & Grey explore the future of Canadian Provincial leadership, how federal interference in provincial policy decisions is making things more complicated than necessary, and why today's leadership is trying to avoid discussing “western alienation”.
To find more from Maxime Bernier you can visit: www.MaximeBernier.com
This episode’s recommended reading:
The Constitution of Liberty - F. A. Hayek
https://amzn.to/3SwjGuO
Mises Institute
https://mises.org
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Peter Holle on how important ”Think Tank’s” are in influencing policy

In this episode Constitutional Lawyer Leighton Grey and Peter Holle have a conversation about how he came to organize a powerful "Think Tank", some of the work he has been doing to help evolve the system of Government, and why it's so important to challenge the status quo.
Peter Holle is the founding President of the Frontier Centre for Public Policy, an award-winning western Canadian based public policy think tank. Since its founding in 1997, Frontier has brought a distinctive and influential Prairie voice to regional and national debates over public policy in areas such as core public sector reform, housing, poverty, aboriginals, consumer-focused health care performance, equalization, rural policy and much more.
The Frontier Centre for Public Policy is an independent, western Canada based public policy "think tank"​ with offices in Winnipeg, Regina and Calgary. Their mission is to develop and popularize policy choices that will help Canada's prairie region live up to its vast but unrealized economic potential. Of the nearly 100 recognized think tanks in Canada, Frontier is one of only 5 to make the 2008 global “Go-To Think Tanks” list published by the Think Tanks and Civil Societies Program of the Foreign Policy Research Institute in Philadelphia.
Mr. Holle has worked extensively with public sector reform and has provided advisory services to various governments across Canada and the United States. His publications have appeared in various newspapers and journals including dozens of newspapers, the National Post and the Wall Street Journal. Peter has a Masters of Business Administration from the University of Wisconsin at Madison. He is a member of various organizations including the Mont Pelerin Society, an international organization of classical liberals.
Holle & Grey have a conversation about the evolution of government systems, why it's important to have a group of educated minds working to solve complex problems, and what he has done as a policy maker.
To find more from Peter Holle you can visit: https://fcpp.org/
This episode’s recommended reading:
How to Think Seriously about the Planet - Roger Scruton
https://amzn.to/3z9G2cU
State of Fear - Michael Crichton
https://amzn.to/3PMe0eE
Yes Minister - James Hacker
https://amzn.to/3S70QtV
Knowledge And Decisions - Thomas Sowell
https://amzn.to/3cNpSyf
Green Murder - Ian Plimer
https://amzn.to/3OCLhqX
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